Are most prison-escape sirens (at least in the US) electronic (with speakers) or mechanical (with an impeller)?
Okay, so those of you who know that an electronic siren just uses a circuit and one or more speaker horns know what I mean by "electronic siren." And those of you who know that most mechanical sirens are the kind with an air-pump-like fan with little plates on the ends of each of its blades that match up with the holes in the case so that the flow of air being sucked in gets chopped off by the blockage of the holes by those plates on the ends of the blades, know what I mean by a mechanical siren.
Mechanical sirens are more commonly still used on fire trucks, while electronic sirens are more commonly used on the police cars and ambulances of today.
Mechanical sirens tend to be louder and more piercing and more scary-sounding than electronic ones.
Tornado warnings are usually given by mechanical sirens, but some of those are still sent by electronic ones. While many of the sirens up on poles are mechanical, several pole-mounted sirens are just electronic horns, too.
Burglar alarm sirens are typically electronic.
I think I saw a TV show were I could tell that the prison-break siren was a mechanical one, and I thought, "Hmm, that's odd…. Couldn't they just use an electronic siren horn for a place like that," even though I'm more interested in mechanical sirens.
Well, so what is it? Are more prison-escape sirens of the mechanical pursuasion, or are more of them the simple electronic ones?
And if more of them are mechanical, why would they be more likely to need that kind just to warn of a prisoner who either was trying to escape or who had succeeded in escaping? Why wouldn't they figure that an electronic horn-based siren could give enough coverage and warning for prison escapes?
(When I say mechanical, I'm not including whether or not the horn spins around or not. That can be done with either kind of siren. Don't include that into the equasion.)
Will you come back and see if I have any clarifications for your answers, please?
Thanks, if so.
BTW, don't say something like, "It depends on which prison," because duh, that's why I said words like "most" and "more," rather than words like "all" or "none."
I didn't know a prison escapee could knock out an electronic horn. How? Can you tell me more, please? What are the chances of one of those being zapped by some kind of electronics zapper?
Thanks, sounds interesting so far.
(^^^ CLARIFICATION for what answerer "Confuzzed" said.)
CLARIFICATION for something Nightrider said:
Thanks for that long explanation about what happens at your prison. But I wasn't talking about wind-up sirens, of course. I was talking about the kind with a motor, which, in fact, are still very prevalent today. As I said before, you'll find those on a lot of current-model fire trucks, still. Many fire houses still have them. Brand-new mechanical sirens are being made right now.
Oh, and by the way, I didn't just see a mechanical prison siren in an old movie. Here's one in action on YouTube (if the Y! will let me supply the link to make it work, but if not, just search for "prison siren" there–especially "Chino prison siren test, which includes this particular video):
That's a mechanical siren.
(Oops, I forgot to close-quote "Chino prison siren test" there just barely. No biggie, though, of course.)
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I work in the Ohio system and I can only answer for this one state, but everything we have is electronic ( no impeller type).
When you watch a movie, a great many items are included for the plot line to make it interesting or add drama. We do NOT have a siren system to warn everyone that something is wrong. We have radios and telephones with a PA system that is completely self contained within the wire.
I am not going to go into details only because I am not sure if it might violate policy to discuss security issues, but we have 6 counts per day. There is absolutely no movement during a count cycle until it has cleared. There are NO sirens blaring, no announcements over the PA system and no one running around like a chicken with it's head cut as seen in the movies. Counts are retaken until we determine what area has the problem, where it lies and find the problem itself. I am greatly over simplifying this with quite a few other details going into the process, but this is what we do for a living and we have it down to a science.
Are there escapes and attempted escapes? Most definitely. As I tell new Officers, "They have 24 hours a day to think of things to do and we have 8 hours a day to catch them at it". Inmates will sit and watch every single movement made. They will time events and try to see if anyone has a set routine ( which we are trained to vary for this specific reason). If they see an area that they feel they can utilize for themselves, they will make an attempt. This is why we shake down cells, property, common areas and inmates themselves. Quite a bit is found long before it can come down to an attempted escape.
But in answer to your specific question, the old days of the wind up impeller siren going off are long gone. But it does look great in the old movies.
Best of luck and I hope this is useful to you
Most are mechanical….reason being there are devices now adays that can knock out all electronic systems so most if not all facilities mainly rely on mechanical or a combination of the 2
It's not because of the prisioners, If a terrorist wanted to create havoc they could set them off and there would be caos. The governments and some terrorist organizations use the devices. It's just uncommon. But it's like anything else if you don't plan against it, it leaves a weak spot and people will capitalize on it
I should add it's an actual device that does this, it will stop all electronics in a certain perimeter from going off, they sometimes use this while mining so nothing accidentally detonates the bombs other than what they intend on using